美国男演员布莱德利·库珀给达克斯·谢泼德的建议促使他坦白自己的旧病复发
Bradley Cooper motivated Dax Shepard to tell the public that he relapsed after 16 years of sobriety.
布莱德利·库珀促使达克斯·谢泼德告诉公众，他在戒酒16年后又复发了。
Shepard, 49, revealed in the Tuesday episode of Jesse Tyler Ferguson’s podcast Dinner’s On Me that Cooper, 49, helped him open up about his relapse in 2020.
49岁的谢泼德在周二杰西·泰勒·弗格森的播客《晚餐在我身上》中透露，49岁的库珀帮助他公开了2020年复发的事情。
The Modern Family alum, 48, asked the Parenthood actor how he decided to share that he had relapsed publicly. Shepard quickly confessed that he first considered not revealing this to the public “way more” than sharing the information. That was until Cooper brought it up and reframed the situation for him.
这位48岁的《摩登家庭》演员问这位出演过《为人父母》的演员是如何决定公开自己旧病复发的。谢泼德很快承认，他首先考虑的是不向公众透露这些信息，而不是分享这些信息。直到库珀提起这件事，并为他重新定义了情况。
“The last thing I wanted to do was go in public, seven days after the collapse of everything, and share that with people. But it would have felt so dishonest,” Shepard began. “The bond and the agreement you have with the audience would have just felt like a huge violation of all these people who had been listening for years and maybe looking to me as a role model.”
“我最不愿意做的事就是在一切崩溃后的第7天，公开与人们分享。但这会让人感觉很不诚实，”谢泼德开始说。“你与听众之间的纽带和协议，会让人感觉是对所有这些听了多年、可能把我当作榜样的人的巨大侵犯。”
Shepard then credited his conversation with Cooper as “kind of the tipping point” for him to reveal his relapse. “He said, 'Are you going to?' 'Cause I told him I relapsed. And then he said, 'Are you going to tell everyone?' And I said, at that point, I was like, 'I don't think so,'" recalled Shepard.
谢泼德认为他和库珀的谈话是他揭露自己旧病复发的“转折点”。“他说，‘你要去吗?因为我告诉他我旧病复发了。然后他说:“你打算告诉所有人吗?”我当时说，‘我不这么认为，’”谢泼德回忆道。
He continued to explain that opening up about this information would also impact his wife, Kristen Bell, and her public persona. “I don't want her to have to f-----g spend half of every interview, 'What's it like being married to an addict?' Like, it just doesn't feel fair to her,” explained Shepard.
他继续解释说，公开这些信息也会影响他的妻子克里斯汀·贝尔和她的公众形象。“我不希望她每次面试都要花一半的时间问‘嫁给一个瘾君子是什么感觉?’”这对她来说不公平，”谢泼德解释道。
As he continued to recall the conversation with Cooper, he confessed that at the time, he was “so afraid of losing that thing that people liked about [him],” adding, “that I might be helping people."
当他继续回忆与库珀的谈话时，他承认当时，他“非常害怕失去人们喜欢他的东西”，并补充说，“我可能会帮助人们。”
Shepard then shared Cooper’s candid reply: "And he said, 'Well, let me tell you this. There's nothing helpful about a guy that's 16 years sober, and married to Kristen Bell, and is rich. What's helpful to somebody is someone who just ate s--- and gets back up.'"
谢泼德随后分享了库珀坦率的回答:“他说，‘好吧，让我告诉你。一个16年没喝酒，娶了克里斯汀·贝尔，还很有钱的人对我来说没什么用。对一个人来说，真正有帮助的是一个刚吃完饭就站起来的人。”
"And I was like, 'Wow.' So, if I'm sincere about what I like about it, [which] is that I'm being helpful, then I really have only a single option," added Shepard.
“我当时就想，‘哇。’”所以，如果我真诚地说出我喜欢它的地方，也就是我乐于助人，那么我真的只有一个选择。”谢泼德补充道。
Ferguson quietly interjected and added, "You have that obligation, sure."
弗格森平静地插嘴说:“你当然有这个义务。”
"So, f--- it, I'll give him credit. He earned it," continued Shepard. "And he's so sexy, too. It'd be easier if he wasn't so sexy."
“所以，不管怎样，我还是相信他。这是他应得的，”谢泼德继续说道。“而且他也很性感。如果他不那么性感就好办多了。”
On Sept. 25, 2020, during an episode on Shepard’s Armchair Expert podcast, he announced he had relapsed after 16 years of sobriety. He explained in the episode, which was recorded on Sept. 21, 2020, that he was seven days sober following a relapse with painkillers that occurred after a motorcycle accident.
2020年9月25日，在谢泼德的《扶手椅专家》播客的一集中，他宣布自己在清醒了16年后又复发了。他在2020年9月21日录制的这一集中解释说，他在一次摩托车事故后再次服用止痛药后，清醒了7天。
Cooper first got sober at 29 years old and has been open about his past addiction struggles.
库珀在29岁时第一次戒酒，并公开了他过去与毒瘾作斗争的经历。
布莱德利·库珀促使达克斯·谢泼德告诉公众，他在戒酒16年后又复发了。
Shepard, 49, revealed in the Tuesday episode of Jesse Tyler Ferguson’s podcast Dinner’s On Me that Cooper, 49, helped him open up about his relapse in 2020.
49岁的谢泼德在周二杰西·泰勒·弗格森的播客《晚餐在我身上》中透露，49岁的库珀帮助他公开了2020年复发的事情。
The Modern Family alum, 48, asked the Parenthood actor how he decided to share that he had relapsed publicly. Shepard quickly confessed that he first considered not revealing this to the public “way more” than sharing the information. That was until Cooper brought it up and reframed the situation for him.
这位48岁的《摩登家庭》演员问这位出演过《为人父母》的演员是如何决定公开自己旧病复发的。谢泼德很快承认，他首先考虑的是不向公众透露这些信息，而不是分享这些信息。直到库珀提起这件事，并为他重新定义了情况。
“The last thing I wanted to do was go in public, seven days after the collapse of everything, and share that with people. But it would have felt so dishonest,” Shepard began. “The bond and the agreement you have with the audience would have just felt like a huge violation of all these people who had been listening for years and maybe looking to me as a role model.”
“我最不愿意做的事就是在一切崩溃后的第7天，公开与人们分享。但这会让人感觉很不诚实，”谢泼德开始说。“你与听众之间的纽带和协议，会让人感觉是对所有这些听了多年、可能把我当作榜样的人的巨大侵犯。”
Shepard then credited his conversation with Cooper as “kind of the tipping point” for him to reveal his relapse. “He said, 'Are you going to?' 'Cause I told him I relapsed. And then he said, 'Are you going to tell everyone?' And I said, at that point, I was like, 'I don't think so,'" recalled Shepard.
谢泼德认为他和库珀的谈话是他揭露自己旧病复发的“转折点”。“他说，‘你要去吗?因为我告诉他我旧病复发了。然后他说:“你打算告诉所有人吗?”我当时说，‘我不这么认为，’”谢泼德回忆道。
He continued to explain that opening up about this information would also impact his wife, Kristen Bell, and her public persona. “I don't want her to have to f-----g spend half of every interview, 'What's it like being married to an addict?' Like, it just doesn't feel fair to her,” explained Shepard.
他继续解释说，公开这些信息也会影响他的妻子克里斯汀·贝尔和她的公众形象。“我不希望她每次面试都要花一半的时间问‘嫁给一个瘾君子是什么感觉?’”这对她来说不公平，”谢泼德解释道。
As he continued to recall the conversation with Cooper, he confessed that at the time, he was “so afraid of losing that thing that people liked about [him],” adding, “that I might be helping people."
当他继续回忆与库珀的谈话时，他承认当时，他“非常害怕失去人们喜欢他的东西”，并补充说，“我可能会帮助人们。”
Shepard then shared Cooper’s candid reply: "And he said, 'Well, let me tell you this. There's nothing helpful about a guy that's 16 years sober, and married to Kristen Bell, and is rich. What's helpful to somebody is someone who just ate s--- and gets back up.'"
谢泼德随后分享了库珀坦率的回答:“他说，‘好吧，让我告诉你。一个16年没喝酒，娶了克里斯汀·贝尔，还很有钱的人对我来说没什么用。对一个人来说，真正有帮助的是一个刚吃完饭就站起来的人。”
"And I was like, 'Wow.' So, if I'm sincere about what I like about it, [which] is that I'm being helpful, then I really have only a single option," added Shepard.
“我当时就想，‘哇。’”所以，如果我真诚地说出我喜欢它的地方，也就是我乐于助人，那么我真的只有一个选择。”谢泼德补充道。
Ferguson quietly interjected and added, "You have that obligation, sure."
弗格森平静地插嘴说:“你当然有这个义务。”
"So, f--- it, I'll give him credit. He earned it," continued Shepard. "And he's so sexy, too. It'd be easier if he wasn't so sexy."
“所以，不管怎样，我还是相信他。这是他应得的，”谢泼德继续说道。“而且他也很性感。如果他不那么性感就好办多了。”
On Sept. 25, 2020, during an episode on Shepard’s Armchair Expert podcast, he announced he had relapsed after 16 years of sobriety. He explained in the episode, which was recorded on Sept. 21, 2020, that he was seven days sober following a relapse with painkillers that occurred after a motorcycle accident.
2020年9月25日，在谢泼德的《扶手椅专家》播客的一集中，他宣布自己在清醒了16年后又复发了。他在2020年9月21日录制的这一集中解释说，他在一次摩托车事故后再次服用止痛药后，清醒了7天。
Cooper first got sober at 29 years old and has been open about his past addiction struggles.
库珀在29岁时第一次戒酒，并公开了他过去与毒瘾作斗争的经历。
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